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TOPIC: Mizzen Mast Support
#344
Mizzen Mast Support 2 Years ago  
Hi Folks,

On our 1979 Whitby 42 we have a noticeable amount of deck compression under our mizzen mast. The mizzen is also raked aft appreciably compared to the main mast. Our boat does not have a stay between the mizzen and the main (triatic).

Some of the signs on our boat:

-- The deck aft of the mast step has sunk

-- The aft head door has been sanded / filed to close

-- The formica on the bulkhead in the head has a vertical crack

-- After removing the mizzen the head door now has 1/2 additional clearance at the top corner near the bulkhead

Now that we have the masts removed I am hoping we can address the compression issue by jacking up the floor under the bulkhead and adding a permanent support.

Anyone else added a support under the floor for the mizzen?

Scott

BTW - I have drilled some exploratory holes under the mizzen step and have only found dry hardwood core.
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Kemah, Texas
Hull# 141
 
#345
Re:Mizzen Mast Support 2 Years ago  
Oh, and I forgot to mention the base of my mizzen mast was not thru-bolted to the deck. The bolts in the base plate shown above were screwed into a fiberglass filler in the deck. I plan on fabricating a new support plate that is wider in both directions to allow thru-bolts to be used.

Read this article and you'll understand why.

www.landfallnavigation.com/harrowing.html

Scott
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Hull# 141
 
#346
Re:Mizzen Mast Support 2 Years ago  
Hi,
Randy Robinson here. After a lot of research Diane Gorch and I just bought a 1979 Whitby Hull # 134 in Nov. 2009. We knew at that time we were 1 of 3 hull #’s that had lost their mizzen mast. In our case it was in a storm on Lake Huron. A triatic stay was added and no problems in the last 20 yrs. No compression issues.
Have you used a moister meter on the deck? You can pick one up on e-bay at half the price. I think it will be worth it to you.
Our boat is in Sarnia, Canada and we are in Michigan, USA. I will be going over to work on it this week and I will take pictures of what ours mizzen looks like and send them on. I hope it will be of help.
Good Luck……………rr
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#347
Re:Mizzen Mast Support 2 Years ago  
I happen to believe that the mizzen mast support needs to be beefed up. The internal lamination on the heads bulkhead, on TIH, has a bulge and the door frame shows signs of warping. In the case of TIH this is not an issue as the Mizzen has been removed. I don't believe that reinforcing needs to be a difficult project

First check the base to ensure that there is no compression of the core.

Then look at this solution I photographed during the rendezvous; (In case the photos don't show up here this is a link to my blog). Note that I left the photo of the owner in the shot so that he can be tracked down and questioned. If he objects and contacts me I will be happy to pixelate his face to protect his identity :-).

The Incredible Hull



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#348
Re:Mizzen Mast Support 2 Years ago  
Thanks for the responses so far and the pictures.

I checked out the pictures on TIH's website. It looks like a compression post was added under the cabin sole to the bottom of the bilge along with some reinforcements bolted to the bulkhead. I wonder what is under the compression post in the bottom of the bilge?

The bottom of my bilge looks like some smooth poured resin with a small sump towards the engine. I wasn't sure if this was a false floor or some sort of filler under it. Does anyone know?

If I can avoid laminating a new floor between the seacocks it would save me lots of time.
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Re:Mizzen Mast Support 2 Years ago  
The aft bilge is pretty solid, at least on top. Not sure what they chucked in to fill it below the top few layers of fiberglass.






I whacked it a few times with a mallet with no result before I covered it with epoxy/sand mix. I would use as large a plate as possible to spread the load.

Gerry

theincrediblehull.blogspot.com/search/label/bilge
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